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jonc



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2012 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Excellent! Looks like the engine mount is JLM1010 - can you confirm?

I think the rear light lenses were specific to this car. From the handbook:

Side/flasher lamp
front R.H. Vega 9726Z
front L.H. Vega 9725Y

Tail/stop/flasher/rear fog/reverse lamp
rear L.H. Vega 9679K
rear R.H. Vega 9678J

So - Vega? I found a Vega Controls Ltd and hoped to get some clues, but here was the response:

Sorry, but unfortunately we cannot quote as we do not manufacture the items you have requested.

We have never been involved in the automotive industry manufacturing lighting components.

Apologies again,

Best Regards,

Doug Anderson
Marketing Manager
VEGA Controls Ltd

So.. no clues so far..

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AML_Canada



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, confirmed, that's the same part.

Interesting about the lenses. It's one of those things that has always driven me crazy. I just can't believe AML would have spent the money to get injection molds made for these. The search continues.... Smile

jonc wrote:
Excellent! Looks like the engine mount is JLM1010 - can you confirm?

I think the rear light lenses were specific to this car. From the handbook:

Side/flasher lamp
front R.H. Vega 9726Z
front L.H. Vega 9725Y

Tail/stop/flasher/rear fog/reverse lamp
rear L.H. Vega 9679K
rear R.H. Vega 9678J

So - Vega? I found a Vega Controls Ltd and hoped to get some clues, but here was the response:

Sorry, but unfortunately we cannot quote as we do not manufacture the items you have requested.

We have never been involved in the automotive industry manufacturing lighting components.

Apologies again,

Best Regards,

Doug Anderson
Marketing Manager
VEGA Controls Ltd

So.. no clues so far..

Jonathan
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Vrije



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting about the lenses. It's one of those things that has always driven me crazy. I just can't believe AML would have spent the money to get injection molds made for these. The search continues....

Been working on my rearlights lately, turns out there are even two different
casts!! not meaning left and right and colors


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Vincent



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The manufacturer for the lenses was VAP and based in UK ( e11 ).

Now in bankrupcy or so ? Nothing on Google about VAP...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know if these VAP lenses were used on other vehicles? That could be a good source.
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Vincent



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AML_Canada wrote:
Does anyone know if these VAP lenses were used on other vehicles? That could be a good source.


Be sure I've already searched : I most think about commercial vehicles or busses ( I remind me to have seen that somewhere... )
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yup got them from VAP, And a set of blancs with just some E #s
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Vrije



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2014 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote




Detail of lenses VAP and R-S
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jonc



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting there were two sources.

Yes, I agree now that it is very unlikely they were specific to this car - AML have a history of using other makes for lights with very few exceptions until the higher volume modern cars.

On eBay UK there are two VAP manufactured lenses. One is Morris Ital:

"MORRIS ITAL SALOON REAR LAMP LENS ASSEMBLY (VAP MARK) LH REAR - ROVER BAU1913"

and the other is a fog lamp for mounting below the rear bumper:

"VAP 14cm x 7cm Rear Fog Lamp 1980's Vintage Unused E11 0013 A7324 Fits All Cars"

So - they made for another UK car maker. The Ital was made from 1980 to 84 but the advert says it was only fitted to a particular chassis number range within that. The fog lamp is listed as aftermarket, but I don't think it is, based on the bracket and connectors.

No luck with any further info from the seller, the Marina Owners forum, or my trademark attorney yet..
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Vincent



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm nearly sure the rear lenses ( E11= UK european code ) were fitted on buses...

Another subject : front lights. On early cars ( up to 13209 ) they are same as on ALPINE A310 ( now out of stock and even with a proposal of rebuild - on ALPINE FORUM - of about 200 pairs, VALEO/CIBIE refused to go on....)
I don't know what is the suitability of front light with other cars (from 13210 ), but as sealed beams were fitted on US cars, the donor car ( or light truck ) was available on the US market.

On S4, the front lights are same as on Nissan 200SX, and the front foglamps are Hella ones fitted on contemporary VW PASSAT.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I sourced the front headlamps from 13372 TO S4 but only as sealed beams (US market). I have to check on non-US cars if they can fit.
Source : RENAULT FUEGO US market & JEEP CHEROKEE !
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Vincent.

I had it on my list to check into this after I saw them on eBay:

Here we have brand new PAIR OF HEADLIGHTS to fit your JEEP CHEROKEE 1977-2001.
Approx measurements of glass front is 7 x 4.5inch.
THESE ARE GENUINE O/E LAMPS MADE BY CIBI
(WILL NOT FIT GRAND CHEROKEE) 082465

So a cross-reference with 'Valeo 082465' lists:

JEEP CHEROKEE (XJ) (1984/10 - /)
2.5 i 4x4 HX 2469 90 122 4 Closed Off-Road Vehicle 1991/12 - /
4.0 i MX 3964 135 184 6 Closed Off-Road Vehicle 1991/12 - /
4.0 i ERH 3964 136 185 6 Closed Off-Road Vehicle 1988/01 - /
2.1 TD J8S 2068 64 87 4 Closed Off-Road Vehicle 1984/10 - /
2.5 TD ENC 2499 85 116 4 Closed Off-Road Vehicle 1988/01 - /
2.1 TD J8S 2068 59 80 4 Closed Off-Road Vehicle 1989/06 - 1992/03
JEEP WRANGLER ? (YJ, SJ_) (1986/08 - 1996/0Cool
4.2 6L 4235 84 114 6 Closed Off-Road Vehicle 1986/08 - 1989/08
VAUXHALL MIDI II (1988/06 - /)
2.0 TD 4FC1T 1995 51 69 4 Bus 1988/06 - 1996/02
2.2 D 4FD1 2189 45 61 4 Bus 1990/07 - /
2.0 20PET 1994 62 84 4 Bus 1988/06 - /
2.4 TD 4FG1T 2380 56 76 4 Bus 1994/09 - /
2.4 TD 2380 69 94 4 Bus 1994/10 - 1997/08

As far as I can tell, it takes an H4 bulb?
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Vrije



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sorry, won't fit (these ones are a little bigger)
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Vincent



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ones which fit are 7' x 6'.
CIBIE BOBI 76.44.05 or 76.44.02
SYLVANIA H6054
Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vincent wrote:
Just a test :

BRAKES

FRONT PADS JAGUAR XJS
REAR PADS JAGUAR XJS
PARKING PADS JAGUAR XJS
FRONT DISKS JAGUAR XJS
FRONT CALLIPERS JAGUAR XJS
REAR CALLIPERS JAGUAR XJS modified

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What is with rear discs? Jaguar XJS?
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